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at first i thought this was wemon of the adeptus mechanicus, wich you know would fit the fluff...

my honest criticizim is you would need to sculpt each one of these lady's from scratch. throwing a woodelf head on aspace marine and sayin its a girls is like slapping a honda sticker over a chevy logo.

and one last thing, give credit to whoe ver you have paint them for these girls, unlike las time.

Right, back to the topic. The heads, while pretty nice sculpts, don't always depict the visual "hook" of the chapter in the best possible way, so here's some ideas that came to me for different "looks".

- Raven Guard: Goth look, maybe? Long dark hair, pale skin, etc. It could be construed as a bit comical, but it's really not any more so than their official look, which is pretty silly to begin with.

- Space Wolves: Wild berzerker hair, battle scars. Pretty much what the regular blokes have, too.

- Iron Hands: Bionic woman?

- Blood Angels: Blond hair, blue eyes, statuesque. BA has always struck me as the cloned-ubermensch chapter.

- Salamanders: I want to say "dreadlocks", but that's pretty much playing to stereotypes. Perhaps bald, for practicality's sake when working with hot metal.

Some of these you could possibly do with Hasslefree head packs, others might be trickier.

This is how I see it, which of course means this is the only reasonable way to view it:

For funsies I say go for it. It is your army, have fun. Where trouble comes a brewing is if you try to say it is canon. We all know this isn't canon. Doctor Thunder is having fun with his project and they are his (I'm guessing) models so why not enjoy it, or at least let him do so. If Doc Thunder starts coming down the mountain telling us that we have to accept female space marines as cannon then it would be ok to pull out the asbestos suits and grab some flamethrowers and have at it.

And last, but not least: boobies.

I think its a funny idea, and its your own time and money do whatever you like. Can't wait to see the finished project.

I second Agamemnon2's suggestions. It's the head that says 'Eyes up here!' so you should should spend as much effort - if not more - in customising those as you have with the rest of the models. Apart from the Ultrasmurf - for whom the slight stiffness is a boon - the posing also needs to be brought up to the standard of the rest of the model. As it stands, the ladies look neither like they're caught in the middle of an action nor enthusiastically striking a heroic pose for the photographer.

Lovin' the idea of distilling a whole Chapter's identity into a single mini.

Too many of them look the same, same poses with slightly different wargear etc, and the 3 different heads between 12 different representatives from extremely unique chapters is just dull, especially considering it's the only thing making them female at the moment and they don't really suit anyway.

I'm not a big fan of the theme, but I'm even less of a fan of the execution.

dumbuket wrote:I was hoping this would be a joke and it'd be a beautifully modeled display base without any models on it but then I saw Dr. Thunder's username and just sighed.

Genius!

My problem with this is the choice of heads.

Wood Elves are too 'girly' as opposed to adult woman. female marines should be at least moderately butch. Think Vasquez or new Starbuck as an absolute minimum.

As this IS adolescent fantasy, no excuses or apologies needed, you could be forgiven from stealing away from the overly beefy imagery, but alsom remember that the marines are in standard adeptus power armour, not sob power armour and this by default indicates that your female astartes have body types not to disimilar to the males.

A female chstpiece would not be completely inappropriate but nevertheless the marines would appear very flat from the outside. Beestings, nothing more. Yes it is best to model nothing than the DD (minimum!) cups so often seen on female conversion minis.

The real armouring change needs to come at the hip and shoulders. While too late for these models next time file a little from the shoulder and replace the arms normally. Meanwhile cut the leg section into two equal pieces and build up a slightly larger crotch gap.

While subtle the slight distortion between shoulder and hip width will immediately indicate the body shape as female. it also helps to shave a tiny amount from the bottom of the torso piece so that the marine is fractionally shorter. If you only just notice the difference, the better it will be.

I am not a fan on female astartes for orthodox mainstream chapters but that is up to you.

Drunkspleen wrote:Too many of them look the same, same poses with slightly different wargear etc, and the 3 different heads between 12 different representatives from extremely unique chapters is just dull, especially considering it's the only thing making them female at the moment and they don't really suit anyway.

I'm not a big fan of the theme, but I'm even less of a fan of the execution.

Never painted ten (10) marines in different colours for the hell of it? I'm painting a Tan (TAN) Marine right now, with no intention of fielding an army of them (yet).
The kid's trying other genders, colours, species, and if he gets the pox it's his own fault.

All you did was put WHFB elf heads on 40k kits. Forgive me for not being impressed. And I do commend you for not putting DD Breasts on these models.

I kinda agree with the above posters, hand sculpting each one of the models would be a massive undertaking, but would look rather nice in the end, giving as you could capture each chapter's essence a bit more that way.

Plus your GS skills are top, put them to use here!

I think - despite the other opinions - they NEED some sort of female augmentation other than female heads. Otherwise they just look like women's heads on male SM bodies.

Soooo, make with the boobies.

robrov21 wrote:I think - despite the other opinions - they NEED some sort of female augmentation other than female heads. Otherwise they just look like women's heads on male SM bodies.

Soooo, make with the boobies.

And we've already seen what kind of reaction THAT creates. I could taste the collective nerd rage in the Widows thread.
What people don't realize is that their chest wouldn't be that big to fit the armor. They probably wouldn't have a chest at all considering how massive their basic shape would be to fit SM armor. Testosterone woudl need to be put into them at some point, right? The chest on the armor is just a looks thing, not literal. Maybe Doc can come up with another way to make them unique.

Stormtroopers have girls, so can marines.

And we've already seen what kind of reaction THAT creates. I could taste the collective nerd rage in the Widows thread.
What people don't realize is that their chest wouldn't be that big to fit the armor. They probably wouldn't have a chest at all considering how massive their basic shape would be to fit SM armor. Testosterone woudl need to be put into them at some point, right? The chest on the armor is just a looks thing, not literal. Maybe Doc can come up with another way to make them unique.

Alright already! If you crack open the can-o-worms that is scale and proportions when dealing with SM, we will be in a lot of trouble. Logic really has very little to do with the fantasy world of WH40K.
I had thought the "Make with the boobies" comment adequately presented as sarcasm, but I suppose a more spoon-fed approach will be needed next time.

My original comment stands, more female-esque parts. Like perhaps painting them pink, or giving them camel-toe. (<------JOKE.JOKE.WARNING)

Ahh, I wasn't attacking at you or anyone ^^ Sorry if it seemed like it.

I was just suggesting maybe a slightly different way to make them more unique would be better.

Came for power armored tits, thread does not deliver.

If you were trying for just a diorama of marine chapter representatives, it wouldn't have been a bad effort. But calling them women and then slapping wood elf heads on them is doesn't look good. There's no coherent theme between the heads and the bodies, and it looks silly. The scale of the heads is wrong and the headdresses on wood elves looks completely out of place on 40k minis, or at least on marine bodies. You should either sculpt proper female "marine" heads (as fluff-crushing as that is), or just abandon the female aspect. I don't understand why every project you do has to involve vaginas.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

that's awesome.

Anyways, I don't think it says that there are no female SMs anywhere. I guess it's just kinda implie, what with the Sisters of Battle and all.

The Thousandth Son wrote:
that's awesome.

Anyways, I don't think it says that there are no female SMs anywhere. I guess it's just kinda implie, what with the Sisters of Battle and all.

The process kills women.

Sisters of battle have 3's in most stats for a reason. They cannot use the black carapace. It's not implied, it's stated.

Noise Marines growing mammary glands DO NOT count as chicks.

HuzzFivvNivv wrote:I can't wait for the video!

Women of the Adeptus Astartes gone wild

HFN

This would be the least "worth it" video ever....hours and hours of them dimanteling their armor...for what? Enhanced mucles, super-boobs that shoot poison and plugs all over their bodies....not to mention they'd probably be pissed that someone was "ordering" them to this anyway, thats a LOT of buildup for very poor payoff.....and lets be honest...if the Girls of AAGW aren't enjoying it...should we?

Now that someone's mentioned it, I'm waiting for the thread where Doc Thunder sculpts tits on a Carnifex.

i can see how "battle brother" "brother captain" "forge father" can be confused with women.

tbh, i agree with most... this seems even more over the top than an entire female space marine army.

The Thousandth Son wrote: that's awesome.

Anyways, I don't think it says that there are no female SMs anywhere. I guess it's just kinda implie, what with the Sisters of Battle and all.

uhm... there are sisters of battle BECAUSE there are no female space marines.

the_trooper wrote:Sisters of battle have 3's in most stats for a reason. They cannot use the black carapace. It's not implied, it's stated.

what he said.

Nurglitch wrote:Now that someone's mentioned it, I'm waiting for the thread where Doc Thunder sculpts tits on a Carnifex.

or just 'junk' in general...

In the interest of true gender equality, we definitely need some Eldar 'Manshees' and 'Daemanettes'. Let's get somebody to put some boobs on a chaos dreadnought and finally explain just why they're so angry.

Ahh, I wasn't attacking at you or anyone ^^ Sorry if it seemed like it.

It's all good. No worries.

Gitzbitah wrote:In the interest of true gender equality, we definitely need some Eldar 'Manshees'

That's the kind of thinking that led to male wyches.

Something about the Black Carapace not working on females pops up in my mind. However, that does not take away the fact that you shouldn't model female Space Marines.

The only critique I have for your models is that they are simply Marines with Wood Elf heads on them, I was hoping you would "effeminate" the Power Armour a bit.

Check out these:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/159605
http://www.coolminiornot.com/169720
http://www.coolminiornot.com/169721

I always figured a Dark Eldar mid-life crisis where warriors start realizing they're getting up there in years and aren't quite so attractive to the ladies any more, so they cram their saggy man-butt into pointy speedos so they can ride around on jetbikes was what led to male wyches.

Malika2 wrote:
I was hoping you would "effeminate" the Power Armour a bit.

I did that for my Black Widows, so I thought I'd try a simpler route this time.

I'm not going to bash...much, but I expected something more here...

A head swap isn't all that difficult to pull off, especially with marines.

But then again, the Black Widows army was...bleh, so maybe minimal conversions are better...

Maybe some paint might make them a little better, give them the steampunk-esque look that I envision woman would have were they to wear Male power armour.


Ooh i got my next project...

Orks of the Adeptus Astartes! Heads swaps...er pics to follow...