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A supertanker carrying crude. These things can be seen from Alpha Centauri and go as fast as my kids to the dentists. Where are they going to go? Seriously

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Somali Pirates Seize Massive Saudi Oil Tanker Off Kenyan Coast
Monday, November 17, 2008

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The Sirius Star tanker conducts a trial run in South Korea in this undated file photo.
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — In one of their boldest hijacks yet, Somali pirates have seized a massive, Saudi-owned oil supertanker loaded with crude oil and carrying 25 crew members off the Kenyan coast, the U.S. Navy said Monday.

The hijacking was the latest in a surge in attacks this year by ransom-hungry Somali pirates and highlighted the vulnerability of even very large ships moving through the area. Attacks off the Somali coast have increased more than 75 percent this year.

After the brazen hijacking, the pirates took the ship to a Somali port that has become a haven for bandits and the ships they have seized, a Navy spokesman told the Associated Press.

The tanker, owned by Saudi oil company Aramco and operated by Vela International, is 1,080 feet, about the length of an aircraft carrier, making it one of the largest ships to sail the seas. It can carry about 2 million barrels of oil.

Lt. Nathan Christensen, a spokesman for the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet, said the Sirius Star was carrying crude at the time of Saturday's hijacking, but he did know how much. He also had no details about where the ship was sailing from and where it was headed.

"The Sirius Star ... was seized by a group of armed men approximately 420 nautical miles off the coast of Somalia on Sunday," a Vela International spokesman said. "All 25 crew members on board are reported to be safe and the vessel is fully laden with crude oil. Vela Response Teams have been mobilized and are working to ensure the safe release of the crew members and the vessel."

While Saudi-owned television station Al Arabiya reported that the crew was released by the hijackers, both the U.S. Navy and Aramco said they had not received such information.

The ship was sailing under a Liberian flag and its 25-member crew includes citizens of Croatia, Britain, the Philippines, Poland and Saudi Arabia.

In a news release sent out on Monday from the 5th Fleet's Middle East headquarters in Bahrain, the Navy said the large crude tanker Sirius Star was attacked more than 450 nautical miles southeast of Mombasa, Kenya, an area far south of the zone patrolled by international warships.

It was the farthest Somali pirates have traveled so far to hijack a ship, Christensen said.

By expanding their ability to attack so far out at sea, Somali pirates are "certainly a threat to many more vessels," Christensen said.

A British Foreign Office spokesman said there were at least two British nationals aboard the MV Sirius Star, but said he could offer no further details on the ship or what had happened to it.

The Sirius Star was built in South Korea's Daewoo shipping yards and commissioned in March. Classed as a Very Large Crude Carrier, the ship is 318,000 dead weight tons.

An operator with Aramco said there was no one available at the company to comment after business hours.

As pirates have become better armed and equipped, they have sailed farther out to sea in search of bigger targets, including oil tankers, among the 20,000 tankers, freighters and merchant vessels transiting the Gulf of Aden each year.

Somali pirates are trained fighters, often dressed in military fatigues, using speedboats equipped with satellite phones and GPS equipment. They are typically armed with automatic weapons, anti-tank rockets launchers and various types of grenades.

Raja Kiwan, a Dubai-based analyst with PFC Energy, said the hijacking raises "some serious questions" about what is needed to secure such ships when they are on the open seas.

"It's not easy to take over a ship" as massive as an oil tanker, particularly VLCC's that can transport about 2 million barrels of crude, he said, adding that such vessels typically have an armed security contingent on board.

Pirates have gone after oil tankers before.

In October, a Spanish military patrol plane thwarted pirates trying to hijack an oil tanker by buzzing them three times and dropping smoke canisters.

On April 21, pirates fired rocket-propelled grenades at a Japanese oil tanker, leaving a hole that allowed several hundred gallons of fuel to leak out, raising fears for the environment.

In September, three pirates in a speed boat fired machine guns at an Iranian crude oil carrier, though the ship escaped after a 30-minute chase.

Warships from the more than a dozen nations as well as NATO forces have focused their anti-piracy patrols in the Gulf of Aden, increasing their military presence in recent months.

But Saturday's hijacking occurred much farther south, highlighting weaknesses in the international response to the problem.

Graeme Gibbon Brooks, the managing director of British company Dryad Maritime Intelligence Service Ltd, said the increased international presence trying to prevent attacks is simply not enough.

"The coalition has suppressed a number of attacks ... but there will never be enough warships. The whole area is 2.5 million square miles ... the coalition have to act preemptively and be one step ahead of the pirates. The difficulty here is that the ship was beyond the area where the coalition were currently acting."

He did not know whether the Saudi ship had weapons or a security team onboard, but said their location — 200 kilometers off the coast — may have given the crew a false sense of security.

Brooks said the tanker likely had been targeted by a group of pirates distinct from the attackers in Somalia's Puntland region in the north, a notorious piracy hotspot.

The pirates in southern Somalia have not carried out any attacks this year, he said, probably because warships escorting food shipments from Mombasa to Mogadishu had been a deterrent.

"But now they see Puntland pirates appear to be operating impervious to the coalition. Perhaps they've drawn the same conclusion, that they can continue to carry out attacks," he said.

FOX News' Greg Palkot and The Associated Press contributed to this report.



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Aren't these the same guys that hijacked a boatload of tanks? Why haven't they been dealt with yet?

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Its like watching the little engine that could. You end up cheering them on. But what next, there's nothing bigger? Maybe they'll try to hijack France or something.

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that wouldn't be too hard

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Or entirely unwelcome.

Somehow, in the roleplaying games my mate runs, we always, always end up sinking France. Sometimes we don't even try.

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Pirates are cool, they High-jacked it just to prove how cool they were.

"hey I bet you can't high-jack that tanker."

"Arrrr, watch and learn, matey!"

What are they gonna do with the oil? Who cares the point is they can take what they want, even if they don't need it, or it makes sense, or will most likely get them killed.

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How are they possibly going to use it? The only thing I can think of is ransoming it. It isn't like they are going to be able to beach the thing close enough to extract the oil, and hav ethe infrastructure to use it. They may sell it to some unscrupulous country, but that would be too obvious.

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Maybe it's time to send in GIJOE. It's obviously some convoluted plot to
take over the world.

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malfred wrote:Maybe it's time to send in GIJOE. It's obviously some convoluted plot to
take over the world.


Captain Planet would be more appropriate since it's oil >.>

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If the pirates show up in blue uniforms with red snakes embroidered onto them I'm going to laugh to death.

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What are they gonna do with the oil? Who cares the point is they can take what they want, even if they don't need it, or it makes sense, or will most likely get them killed.



Maybe they will threaten to set it on fire? Blow it up in some fashion or spill the oil somewhere. Maybe wreck it up into a coral reef to show Australia who is boss.

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That makes it sound like a convoluted plan to draw out and trap Greenpeace.

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malfred wrote:That makes it sound like a convoluted plan to draw out and trap Greenpeace.


Good way to do it.

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malfred wrote:That makes it sound like a convoluted plan to draw out and trap Greenpeace.


It’s a Japanese plot to draw Greenpeace away from their whaling fleet.
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I will come back to this thread in three days to witness how grand and convoluted this plot turns out to be. It will be so complicated and Rube Goldberg-esque the Tzeentch himself would blush.

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Or maybe Somali pirates subsist on fossil fuels in their crudest form.

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They just saw Waterworld, and their leader decided that Dennis Hopper had a pretty sweet gig.
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Just wait until Obama becomes president.

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Please oh please send in the eco terrorists who are greenpeace.


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I got it! It´s a convoluted plan by the OPEC to rise the price of oil and wreck our economy.
First they sell the oil to the 1st world countries and insurance it with AIG or one of the big companies, then the highjack the tanker and take it to a friendly port in some place near Somalia. Once there they ship the oil back to Saudi Arabia in the little pvc water bottles we dump in the African landfills to avoid poluting the US or Europe. When the oil is back they sell it again and start again the cycle.
Due to these pirates bands the insurance companies have to pay so theý rise the premiums to the oil companies to transport oil, in time those additional costs are passed to us consumers resulting in higer gas prices at the pump. Item plus the higher deman of little 50cc bottles create more and more greenhouse gases so our goverments have to charge us additional taxes to combat global warming giving part of that money to the ecoguys that support the pirates to get money from us. The rest of the money goes to hide the fact that back in 1951 ET came to offer us clean tech to preserve our enviroment. The cover up is the result of Cheney using a time machine to avoid us knowing this as in a world with cheap and plentyful energy the Bush goverment
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Last we have the evil commies, using a brand new mind reading ray to send info to the pirates when the NATO navies chase them so they can hide the Chinese crewed venezuelan drug smuggling submarines.

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If you put a platoon of royal marines on the ship they wouldn't of taken it, not a chance

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You know who would have taken that tanker then?

That's right, the royal marines.

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They have now taken a Hong Kong grain ship with 32,000 tons of wheat on board.

I reckon they know what to do with that.

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I tell ya, Blackbeard would be proud.

But now its getting time to blow them up. Time to unmothball the New Jersey, 'Bama, and Missouri (still around?) and send them over to go get some. If they can't find the pirates just randomly lob shells into the "port areas" where they were at. If its good enough for the Royal Navy in the 1700s ifts good enough for me. Where's Errol Flyn when you need him?

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Hate to tell you Frazzled but Errol died in 1959.

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Yes I think the JLD would do nicely in this circumstance...

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Did some research turns out the pirats have jacked over 80 ships this year and have netted over 200 mil. They are pretty good at not killing crews oddly enough. Seem thats why companies are unwilling to put armed gards onboard. The pirates fire for show and fear factor, returning fire would spark them killing and sinking the ships. They are surprisingly well armed it seems.

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Frazzled wrote:Its like watching the little engine that could. You end up cheering them on. But what next, there's nothing bigger? Maybe they'll try to hijack France or something.


Actually the French military have been taking action over pirates, twice this year they sent in commandos to clean up captured ships and rescue the crews. They did a good job, no commandoes dead hostages dead, ship recovered. The Royal Navy sometimes takes action, they got a few last week.

If anything Somalia has more to fear attacking a French ship, France is showing it has a pair.

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britain and india have also been happily blowing up pirates over the past few years.

not that it will stop them though.

the oil in that tanker alone was worth $100m. the tanker itself another $500m. they will probably just sell it back to who ever they stole it from like they usually do. the saudis want their boat and oil back, the pirates want lots of money. paying $100m is better than losing a tanker and a crap load of oil.

$100m for a couple of weeks work? where do i sign up?

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