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Got this off Bell Of lost Souls today, this is a direct copy paste from them!


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Hi guys:

Latest rumbling regarding next year's IG codex:

GENERAL RUMORS
-No more doctrines
-Tanks will be in squads
-Many special charaters that will provide army wide rules like those in new SM codex
-Chimera and Hellhound might come in one combo boxed set
-Troop squads may be in the pricerange of 200Pts for 45 Guardsmen
-Many new models

MODEL RUMORS (only a sampling)
-Leman Russ multi-variant all plastic kit
-Hellhound updated
-IG Command Squad plastic kit
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So, 4 point (approx.) Guardsmen?

Looks that way!

I personally dont like the whole "Character=new army" idea like in the Sm Codex.

Looks like they've been reading dakka.

Looks like IG are going to easily outnumber even Orks and Tyranids. They'll need it though. The 4 point cost probably isn't exact due to a sargeant or something.

Damnit. I need to stockpile more of my magic ingredients. All I can say is that rough riders had better still EXIST, even if they're useless.

This would be SO hot if true. Oh MAN do I want plastic command squads, hellhound/chimera combo kits, and all Leman Russes in one box. That would make me so damn happy.

Plastic Storm Troopers as well would send me over the edge.

For plastic roughriders I would actually poop myself.

Given a retooled or greatcoat infantry set, a possible new Chimera/Hellhound mix AND a new plastic Russ, I'm guessing that plastic Roughriders are unliekly. Then again, I would have said the same thing about plastic Stormboyz...

jp400 wrote:-Many special charaters that will provide army wide rules like those in new SM codex

H.B.M.C. in 3...2...1...

One problem with 4 pt IG is space. I've tried infantry hoards and found that I quickly ran out of useful space in my deployment zones for them.

Granted that was 3.5 edition with consolidating into units and such.

LoL!

jp400 wrote:-No more doctrines

What a shock!

(/sarcasm)

jp400 wrote:-Tanks will be in squads

But won't be taken in squads because Immobilised = Destroyed.

jp400 wrote:-Many special charaters that will provide army wide rules like those in new SM codex

*sigh*

My most hated trend of Jervis' Reign continues...

jp400 wrote:-Chimera and Hellhound might come in one combo boxed set

Well... ok...?

jp400 wrote:-Troop squads may be in the pricerange of 200Pts for 45 Guardsmen

But will no doubt pay through the nose for Plasmas, Meltas and Lascannons.

jp400 wrote:-Many new models

Of what?

jp400 wrote:-Leman Russ multi-variant all plastic kit

Depends what variants are actually in there, otherwise I've got 30 Russes, don't need any more.

jp400 wrote:-Hellhound updated

Good idea. Need to be rid of hybrid kits.

jp400 wrote:-IG Command Squad plastic kit

'Bout damned time.

BYE

Scottywan82 wrote:This would be SO hot if true. Oh MAN do I want plastic command squads, hellhound/chimera combo kits, and all Leman Russes in one box. That would make me so damn happy.

Plastic Storm Troopers as well would send me over the edge.

For plastic roughriders I would actually poop myself.

QFT

Good luck fitting all the IG infantry on the board Let alone the carnage one unit of close combat will do as they rip through the target packed soft environment!

I'd love it if the STs or even a new regiment looked more like the new Empire State troops or the Vor... something or anothers. Y'know the Russian Guys. The Other Russian Guys.

Lots of detail, lots of craziness, skulls everywhere, impractical equipment... we already have one more or less practical looking army lets have a batshit insane one!

There had better be a 40k equivalent of a powder monkey in one of the new box sets.

BoLS wrote:
-No more doctrines
-Tanks will be in squads
-Many special charaters that will provide army wide rules like those in new SM codex
-Chimera and Hellhound might come in one combo boxed set
-Troop squads may be in the pricerange of 200Pts for 45 Guardsmen
-Leman Russ multi-variant all plastic kit
-Hellhound updated
-IG Command Squad plastic kit

No doctrines? OK. It's amost not news.

Basic Russ squadrons have been assumed for quite a while. What might change the army would be Demolisher and Basilisk squadrons.

Special Characters being the new Doctrines? You don't say!

Combined Chimera / Hellhound isn't too hard surprise. But they're really missing a much-needed redesign opportunity with the Hellhound this way.

For basic Guardsmen, without any upgrades, I can see 4+ pts. Make them interesting with Camo / Carapace / whatever, and we're probably back at 6+ pts again.

Combined Demolisher / Russ kit makes good sense and is pretty obvious. Tho I really wish GW does an up-sized mk.2 FW Mars Alpha-styled Russ. Please? Please?

Same with a good FW-styled Artemia Hellhound.

And of course, the plastic command squad is a no-brainer if GW is taking the metal out of the guard range.

sounds rather interesting, were are you getting this most intreging information from, id like 2 know more, hjave you got any other rumours fhanging around

Kid_Kyoto wrote:I'd love it if the STs or even a new regiment looked more like the new Empire State troops or the Vor... something or anothers. Y'know the Russian Guys. The Other Russian Guys.

Lots of detail, lots of craziness, skulls everywhere, impractical equipment... we already have one more or less practical looking army lets have a batshit insane one!

The Neo-Soviets... which made tasty growler snacks, but were never quite filling enough.

Plastic Rough Riders could be a wave 2 release for all we know. The codex releases always need to be the stuff that's most needed or the most important, like the new Chimera kit, new Russ kit and hopefully a plastic Cadian command squad.

But really now, are these rumours that new?

I'm quite curious about the chimera redo (if it's true). I seem to be one of the few peopel who likes the Leman Russ as he is, but the Chimera, and especially the turret, never did it for me.

Though the plastic Valkyrie is the thing I'm really anxious for

I just hope the Russ and Chimera get a nice upgrade like the Rhino got. Not much is needed but removing at least some of the rivets from the kit would be good. And changing the turrets. And tracks. And skirts...

Oh, well...

But won't be taken in squads because Immobilised = Destroyed.

Only if you move out of coherency with one of the others. Because, y'know, leman russes move so much.

jp400 wrote:-Troop squads may be in the pricerange of 200Pts for 45 Guardsmen

All sounds cool, if this one is true and we're really gonna end up needing a lot more men, I'd like to see them add more to the regular cadian box set and make it 24 or even 28 guys instead of 20... either that or keep that the same but put out a platoon box set where you can get all 45 guys for like $60 maybe that has 2 boxes of cadians plus the new plastic command stuff.

IG really deserve better than this.

GENERAL RUMORS
-No more doctrines Ummm, kinda no brainer
-Tanks will be in squads Yay, our tanks are now like our troop, they die easily
-Many special charaters that will provide army wide rules like those in new SM codex I guess we don't deserve anything better than a rip off of another book
-Chimera and Hellhound might come in one combo boxed set Gasp, not really a deal
-Troop squads may be in the pricerange of 200Pts for 45 Guardsmen Time to start painting another 100 guard models
-Many new models No, duuuuuuuh. I think we' be very concerned if there weren't

MODEL RUMORS (only a sampling)
-Leman Russ multi-variant all plastic kit Double Gasp, not really a deal
-Hellhound updated I hope they don't explode easily and don't come in squadrons
-IG Command Squad plastic kit Shouldn't we have gotten this a while ago

Some people here seem to be getting there panties all up in a bunch and need a healthy dose of manners. Take it with a grain of salt and move on. Bitching does nothing here.

Anyway.......
@Necros: I agree with you, however Id hate to see the price increase on the box. lol

@: Shuma: True, however the other rumor floating around that I didnt put on here is that LR's might be able to move and shoot all there weapons. (Aka move and fire MBC or all Hull weapons.) If true that would rock out loud in stereo.

@HMV: Yeah the kit does need a upgrade. I love some of the FW turrets and wish they would go that route.

@BrookM: Yes SOME of these are new my friend. Some are old however. Just a updated list is all.

ShumaGorath wrote:

But won't be taken in squads because Immobilised = Destroyed.

Only if you move out of coherency with one of the others. Because, y'know, leman russes move so much.

False.

Page 64 of the rulebook

"To represent this, treat all immobilized results as destroyed (wrecked) and all stunned results as shaken."

aka_mythos wrote:Bawwhammer 40whine

@: Shuma: True, however the other rumor floating around that I didnt put on here is that LR's might be able to move and shoot all there weapons. (Aka move and fire MBC or all Hull weapons.) If true that would rock out loud in stereo.

If that rumor turns out to be true then it would be a pretty good tradeoff.


:edit:

False.

Page 64 of the rulebook

"To represent this, treat all immobilized results as destroyed (wrecked) and all stunned results as shaken."

I just checked my minibook and yeah, looks like all of maine has been playing this one wrong. Well that sucks. It would still be a moderate tradeoff though for the tanks being only a single squadron choice and thus only a single KP.

@Shuma:
Yeah, I dont know why people are complaining about it. I feel that the LR should be able to move and fire everything. Why? Simple really... cause it makes the IG Unique in a small way! What is the fun if every single army is cookie cutter rules wise. Its bad enough armies are loseing everything that makes them fluffy rules wise. Plus the Ig were supposed to have some of the best tanks in the game. That was how they were origionally ment to be with a tradeoff of really bad cheap infantry.

Plus its about damn time that the IG actually become a solid army. They have been so bad for long that only the die hards play them. I remember me and my friend (playing guard) were the only two in a 40 man weekend tourny. The Tourny Organizer wanted to give us both our money back for the weekend before any games were played cause he felt that we wouldnt stand a snowballs chance in hell of placeing top 3. We didnt win but I got top 15 and my friend top 20ish.

Its this kind of crap that makes me wish and pray that most of these rumors are true.

Every time HBMC brings up Immobilized = Destroyed vis a vis vehicle squadrons, I feel compelled to mention that currently Track Guards can mitigate that, and I'm willing to bet that there will be a similar effect if Russes are available in squadrons.